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Popular characters you can't stand; Villains and good guys
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 8 2016, 04:44 AM (2,546 Views)
zionhyome	Aug 8 2016, 04:44 AM Post #1
Posts: 71 Group: Member Member #11,088 Joined: March 22, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z Favourite Manga Last Fantasy	Anyone else have any characters that most people seem to really like, but you can't stand them? I have a few, but I'll just name one villain and one good guy that, even though they are among the most popular, I just can't stand them. You can post as many or as few as you'd like; you don't have to follow my example of just one of each. I'm just curious to see some other viewpoints. Anyway, here goes. Good guy: Vegeta. Don't get me wrong. I understand the reason he is so popular, and I can respect him as a character, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. I just don't feel like he has earned his place as Goku's rival. It's always seemed one-sided to me. I just see him as a spoiled kid who can't handle not being the best. Yeah, he has a goal of becoming stronger, and beating Goku, but Goku doesn't really seem to care. If you ask me, the Goku/Piccolo rivalry made more sense. Villain: Broly Yeah. You read that correctly. I cannot stand this guy. I really don't get the appeal. In my opinion, he's very one dimensional, his design is lazy, and his motives are contrived. After a certain point, the only thing he ever said as "Kakarrot!". It's like they took all the traits I hate about Vegeta, multiplied them tenfold, and injected them into what looks like a giant Super Trunks with no pupils. (Accidental rant alert) I don't get the idea that, in the first movie, at least, he was stronger than Cell. If he were, he would have won. Goku hadn't even finished training for the Cell Games yet, and even when he did, he wasn't nearly strong enough to beat Cell. Gohan was still unaware of his dormant abilities, and everyone else was weakened so much from the fight that they couldn't possibly have given enough energy to Goku, who was also on his last leg, for him to be able to beat someone who was stronger than Cell. Well, that got a bit out of hand there, but I do still believe those things, so I'll just add a rant warning before it starts. Sorry about that. But, yeah. Those are the two big ones for me. Anyone else wanna share?



Darker	Aug 8 2016, 04:53 AM Post #2
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	This is one of those moments where everyone on the forum will get together and agree, and then they'll scream: "VEGETA!"
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Total Warrior	Aug 8 2016, 11:58 AM Post #3
Posts: 503 Group: Member Member #10,993 Joined: March 10, 2014 Gender Male Country Italy Favourite Anime One piece, Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man	I really can't stand DBS Goku, he's annoying



lazerbem	Aug 8 2016, 02:08 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I would say Vegeta for the popular characters, but honestly, he's got lots of naysayers to counterbalance. DBS Goku is the same. So I guess I'll go with Cabba, who's just really boring, imo. Look at him, he's another Saiyan and that's it. He might as well be a Tarble clone and that's that. Broly is loathed, so yeah. For a popular villain, I'll go with Cooler. He is decaf Freeza
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EMIYA	Aug 8 2016, 02:47 PM Post #5
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Vegeta by far, specifically his Boo Arc self. Such a whiny, self serving character. All the characterization, all the development he had in the Cell Arc, gone...because oh my, poor Vegeta's weaker than Goku again. How weird....btw...spoilers...Dumbledore dies...tell me something that isn't new. A huge manchild that people love apparently because they think he's cool when in fact he's a little child who whines and cries until he gets the toy he wants. The only thing I can say is that now a days, people are becoming more aware of Vegeta's huge flaws here. But in the past...oh man. Vegeta was so cool man. Majin Vegeta was so badass, and his sacrifice was so sad..and no it wasn't. --- --- I'm also going to nominate Gogeta. While not necessarily a bad character, he's not much of a character. Yet people love him so much they think he can rival the likes of Vegetto despite Potaras being far...far stronger. He's treated as a god when he's barley made an impact at all. --- --- I can't say much on villains, I think most of them are either balanced or more or less deserve their popularity. I think Cooler is indeed pretty much a Freeza clone, but I also enjoy Cooler and think he's an overall cool and badass villain.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Aug 8 2016, 03:15 PM Post #6
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Tenshinhan. After Dragon Ball he became totally uninteresting, devoid of personality, and all people cling to with him is that he's the strongest Earthling, but according to Toriyama, he isn't even that.
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+ Emmeth	Aug 8 2016, 03:20 PM Post #7
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	DBZ Goku, especially before the Boo arc. The fact that he makes some mistakes in the Boo arc makes him more human to me and he actually seems like more of an interesting character. I think the silly Goku in DBS is pretty funny and a good character.
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Thiln	Aug 8 2016, 04:35 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Vegeta of course. Can't stand his arrogance or his role in usurping the structural framework of the manga to hegemonise it around the Saiyans.



DBZAOTA482	Aug 8 2016, 05:58 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	DBS Goku. Good god they made it into such an annoying retard.



zionhyome	Aug 8 2016, 08:13 PM Post #10
Posts: 71 Group: Member Member #11,088 Joined: March 22, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z Favourite Manga Last Fantasy	EMIYA Aug 8 2016, 02:47 PM I can't say much on villains, I think most of them are either balanced or more or less deserve their popularity. I think Cooler is indeed pretty much a Freeza clone, but I also enjoy Cooler and think he's an overall cool and badass villain. I like the idea of Cooler, but the execution was lacking a bit, to me anyway. Actually, if it hadn't been for Broly being so unjustifiably (in my opinion) popular that he got three movies, Cooler would probably be my least favorite. I honestly think it's worse when they have a good idea, but execute it the wrong way. At least when a character is just complete garbage, I don't get disappointed by anything they do, because I don't have any expectations. Cooler could have been great, but, as it stands, I think he's just a big missed opportunity.



breaker335	Aug 8 2016, 09:10 PM Post #11
Posts: 879 Group: Member Member #13,278 Joined: June 5, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Quick question, what don't you like about Cooler?



Hit	Aug 9 2016, 12:24 AM Post #12
Posts: 66 Group: Member Member #13,433 Joined: August 8, 2016	Broly: I didn't hate Broly from beginning. I just didn't like him much. I don't get why he is so hyped. I guess it's because the "Legendary" Super Saiyan. He is pretty much dumb, can't say a word besides "KAKAROTT!!!". Looks like Super Trunks with Roids 10x. Also; why does he hate Goku so much? Just because he cried when he was a baby and he couldn't sleep in peace? WTF. Why doesn't he hate Vegeta that much. That guy whose father attempted to kill him and his father? But nope; A baby goku who cries too much is worse ofc. I started hating Broly because of the Brolytards. With their ridiculous theorys that he is the strongest of all etc. So..yeah.



superperfectnerd	Aug 9 2016, 01:15 AM Post #13
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	I always feel hating Vegeta because you think he's whiny or entitled is perfectly fine for humans living a pretty ordinary happy life but for a saiyan who was raised to be bloodthirsty and give in to that nature, plus ave his entire species destroyed and be raised in an environment where it's literally his day to day routine to cause the extinction of countless billions of species...yeah, the guy may be a little 'whiny' or 'entitled' if he was raised to believe his power was all that ever mattered. The very fact that a guy like that even has it in him to love a family and protect the Earth is a miracle, even if it gets a bit rocky at times. Sorry it just erks me to think anyone would consider a life like that 'privileged'. That's a horrible life. Living the conditions which would make a person WANT to be like that is the tragedy of his character which he was eventually able to fully move past thanks to Goku and his family and at the end of Z he's grateful to them. Vegeta's behaviour always made sense considering his ridiculous past. I don't think Tien is all that. He seems obsessed with nothing but fighting and training. People s* on Yamcha but the guy just had a life outside of martial arts as did Krillin but Krillin went through more and became stronger. Tien seems to take himself very seriously and never really seemed to grow as a person other than when he gave up being an assassin way back in Dragon Ball. As for villains. Kid/Pure Buu. He's just a dumb maniac who really wasn't around that long. Plus he was just 'pure evil monster' cliche. Edited by superperfectnerd**, Aug 9 2016, 01:18 AM.



zionhyome	Aug 9 2016, 01:50 AM Post #14
Posts: 71 Group: Member Member #11,088 Joined: March 22, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z Favourite Manga Last Fantasy	breaker335 Aug 8 2016, 09:10 PM Quick question, what don't you like about Cooler? To be honest, it's not so much the character as it is what they did with him. It was almost exactly the same as the fight with Frieza. Goku is hurt. The others fight in his place. Goku is healed just in time to save the day. The two are, more or less, evenly matched. They power up. Goku is losing. Goku transforms. And, once again, the day is saved, thanks to: the Powerp... The Super Saiyan. Granted, that has more to the movie than the character, but you can really only judge someone by what they do, and how they would react to the situations around them. That's why I feel so mad about him. His personality and his pride for his family are interesting bits, but they just aren't explored enough.



lazerbem	Aug 9 2016, 01:59 AM Post #15
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: a saiyan who was raised to be bloodthirsty and give in to that nature, plus ave his entire species destroyed and be raised in an environment where it's literally his day to day routine to cause the extinction of countless billions of species...yeah, the guy may be a little 'whiny' or 'entitled' if he was raised to believe his power was all that ever mattered. That doesn't fly when you realize that both Raditz and Nappa had better moral fiber despite the exact same upbringing. Nappa in particular actually shows care for his comrades. Vegeta on the other hand, callously kills his own allies and doesn't care in the least about their race's extinction. Not to mention that if the life was so bad, why did he want to return to it? He said so himself that he wanted to be like he was back in the old days, and not for any reason besides the fact that it'd give him an edge on Goku. Quote: Sorry it just erks me to think anyone would consider a life like that 'privileged'. That's a horrible life. Given he enjoyed it, it certainly seems privileged. No one was forcing him to stay Freeza's dog, he could have gone into hiding like Tarble did and avoided all of it. Besides, Freeza had him on a ridiculously long leash. He could go AWOL without any consequences. Quote: Living the conditions which would make a person WANT to be like that is the tragedy of his character which he was eventually able to fully move past thanks to Goku and his family and at the end of Z he's grateful to them. Vegeta's behaviour always made sense considering his ridiculous past. Problem is that he's worse than a good portion of Freeza's soldiers. He's worse than Nappa and the Ginyu Force, simply because they seemed to at least care a bit for their allies and friends, while Vegeta had a smile as he exploded his one friend and one of the last Saiyans. But even if he had this truly horrible past, the problem lies in the fact that Vegeta himself doesn't make a big deal about it. He's only pissy over Goku because he thinks Goku doesn't deserve to be the best. It's purely jealousy, and the fact that he sells his soul over it is the whiny part. The entitled part is thinking he deserves to be the strongest because he's a prince, not because of his training.
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